Merge pull request 'Issues 147 and 148: a route before its module is taken; a new name recreates every container' (#188) from issue/147-148-found-migrating-ace into main
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status: open
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opened: 2026-09-29
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- mesh-controller internal/catalogue/declaration.go (contributions are emitted for an assigned module, taken or not)
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# 147 — A route is contributed before its module is taken
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## What was observed
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ace is adopted and runs `route-adapter` beside the predecessor's traefik (ADR 0104). The first web
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module migrated there was searxng. `assign ace searxng` + `push ace` — the step that is supposed to
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change nothing on an adopted machine (ADR 0100, hq 125: assign holds, take replaces) — took
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`searxng.zurag.be` down:
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```
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https://searxng.zurag.be/ → 502
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```
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for about five minutes, until the module was unassigned again.
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## Why
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Assign held everything it found on the machine — the predecessor's `searxng` container, its
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directories — exactly as designed. But the module's **route contribution** is not a resource on the
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machine, so nothing held it: it reached `route-adapter` at once, which wrote
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`mesh-searxng.zurag.be.yml` into traefik's file provider pointing at the mesh's assigned machine port
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(`http://ace.internal:20000`) — where nothing listened, because the container that would was held.
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traefik's file router for the name then won over the predecessor's docker-label router for the same
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name, and the name served a dead backend.
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On this occasion the window was lengthened by an unrelated failure (the machine's docker address
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pools were exhausted, so the module's network could not be created), but the fault does not depend on
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it: **between assign and take, every routed module's public name points at a backend the mesh has
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deliberately not started.** The runbook's §6 step 2 ("check the preparation — HAL's service still
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serves") is false for every routed module on a node running route-adapter.
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## What the operator did
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Rolled back per runbook (unassign before take), then re-ran as assign → push → wait for the node to
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report its holds → take → push, keeping the window to the ~10 s between the two pushes. A workaround,
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not a fix: a module whose data must move between assign and take (runbook §6 step 3) cannot shrink
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its window this way.
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## What would be right
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A contribution from a module that is assigned but **not taken** on an adopted node should be held like
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the module's resources are — withheld from the provider until take — or the provider should be told
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the contributor is held and leave the predecessor's route alone. Either keeps "assign changes nothing"
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true for routed modules.
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status: open
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opened: 2026-09-29
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located-in:
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- mesh-host internal/apply/apply.go (containerSpecReading hashes every `host` entry)
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- mesh-controller internal/catalogue/declaration.go (withMeshNames gives every container the mesh's names)
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fixed-by:
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# 148 — A new name recreates every container in the mesh
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## What was observed
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Migrating one small module on ace (searxng) took four routine controller actions: `node public-domain
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ace zurag.be`, `assign ace searxng` + push, `unassign ace searxng` + push (a rollback, see
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[issue 147](../147-a-route-is-contributed-before-its-module-is-taken/00-report.md)), and assign + take
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+ push again. Each push to ace also pushed novox ("this push left g14, novox, shanks behind … sending it
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too"). novox's host then **replaced every container it runs, twice**:
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```
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22:46 … updated postgres.server (mesh-store): replaced; a container's configuration is fixed when it is created
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22:46 … updated distribution.store (mesh-registry): replaced; …
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22:46 … updated route-proxy.server (route-proxy): recreated …
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22:51 … updated postgres.server (mesh-store): replaced; …
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22:52 … updated gitea.server (gitea): replaced; …
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22:52–22:55 mesh-vault, builder, all of mailu, keycloak, minio, mongodb, invoicing, photos, umami, …
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```
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Replacements per minute on novox, 22:46–22:55: 12, 8, 13, 5, 6, 8, 8, 8, 8, 4. The control plane was
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unreachable twice while its own store came back through crash recovery
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(`FATAL: the database system is starting up`), and dependants (umami) crash-looped until it did. None
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of the replaced containers belonged to the module being migrated, or to ace.
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## Why (confirmed part)
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Every container the mesh runs is given the mesh's names as `--add-host` entries
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(`withMeshNames`), and the host puts every entry into the container's spec digest — deliberately,
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since [issue 135](../135-a-containers-mesh-names-are-not-compared/00-report.md): a container left alone when the roster moved kept a five-day-old
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address and restarted 2286 times. A running container cannot have its hosts changed, so a changed
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digest means a replace.
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The consequence is that **the roster is part of every container everywhere**: anything that adds,
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removes or moves one name — a node's public domain, a routed name, an unassign — replaces every
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container on every machine that carries the list. On the hub that includes the control plane's store,
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the registry, the edge and mail.
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## Not yet established
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Which name moved in each pass. gitea's hosts after the fact list the `.internal` names and novox's
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internally routed `*.novox.be` names, and **not** `searxng.zurag.be` — so it is not simply "a routed
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name was added". Two passes suggest the set changed at assign and changed back at unassign; the
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declarations before and after would say, and nothing on the machine records the previous one.
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## Why it matters now
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The node-by-node migration adds names one module at a time. On ace alone that is ~25 web modules; if
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each assignment moves the roster, each is a full restart of every hub service, and a rollback is
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another. The migration is paused on this.
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## What would be right (for diagnosis)
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Keep 135's guarantee (no container runs with a stale address) without making the roster part of every
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container's identity — e.g. resolve mesh names through a resolver the container asks at lookup time
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rather than baked entries, or scope each container's entries to the names it actually binds.
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