diff --git a/cmd/mesh-controller/desk_secret.go b/cmd/mesh-controller/desk_secret.go
index 67f242cb..96524993 100644
--- a/cmd/mesh-controller/desk_secret.go
+++ b/cmd/mesh-controller/desk_secret.go
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ import (
 	"encoding/json"
 	"errors"
 	"fmt"
+	"log"
 	"strings"
 	"time"
 
@@ -253,8 +254,9 @@ func askAtDesk(ctx context.Context, node, module, name, desk string) error {
 		return err
 	}
 	defer open.Close()
+	askedBy := link.Caller()
 	d := deskGive{
-		askedBy: link.Caller(),
+		askedBy: askedBy,
 		open: func(node, module, name, desk string) (int64, error) {
 			return open.inventory.OpenSecretAsk(ctx, node, module, name, askedByName(link.Caller()), desk)
 		},
@@ -291,7 +293,9 @@ func askAtDesk(ctx context.Context, node, module, name, desk string) error {
 				return err
 			})
 		},
-		announce: func(node, module, name, how string) error { return announceSecretGiven(ctx, node, module, name, how) },
+		announce: func(node, module, name, how string) error {
+			return announceSecretGiven(ctx, node, module, name, how, askedBy)
+		},
 	}
 	words, err := d.give(node, module, name, desk)
 	if err != nil {
@@ -342,10 +346,84 @@ func secretNameWords(name string) string {
 	return strings.Join(strings.FieldsFunc(name, func(r rune) bool { return r == '-' || r == '_' || r == '.' }), " ")
 }
 
-// announceSecretGiven raises it on this controller's keeper.
-func announceSecretGiven(ctx context.Context, node, module, name, how string) error {
-	return withKeeper(ctx, func(k *conditions.Keeper) error {
-		_, err := k.Observe(ctx, secretGivenObservation(node, module, name, how, time.Now()))
-		return err
+// tellWithin is how long the operator channel's `tell` is given to answer: well under a human's patience,
+// and short because nothing in the call waits on the operator — it asks nothing (novox/hq ADR 0380).
+const tellWithin = 10 * time.Second
+
+// askOperatorChannel asks the operator channel's seat (the holder issue 797 gives it) its `tell` verb,
+// through the controller's grant (novox/hq ADR 0380 §8), over this controller's own bus connection; a seam
+// a test replaces whole. The holder's own refusal is an error naming it; an absent holder or a refused
+// grant answer as link.ErrNothingServes or link.ErrGrantRefused (checked with errors.Is), so the caller can
+// tell the two apart from any other failure.
+var askOperatorChannel = func(ctx context.Context, args map[string]any) (json.RawMessage, error) {
+	var result json.RawMessage
+	err := onTheBus(func(conn *nats.Conn) error {
+		answer, err := link.AskMeshSeatTool(ctx, conn, "operator-channel", "tell", args, tellWithin)
+		if err != nil {
+			return err
+		}
+		if answer.Error != "" {
+			return fmt.Errorf("operator-channel.tell refused: %s", answer.Error)
+		}
+		result = answer.Result
+		return nil
 	})
+	return result, err
+}
+
+// announceSecretGiven tells the operator, once, that a module's own secret was given (novox/hq ADR 0380):
+// one plain message through the operator channel's `tell`, naming the secret, the module, the machine,
+// where and when it was given and who asked — asking nothing, and opening no condition. **The controller's
+// change waits for that verb at run time, not at merge** (clause 9): while nothing on the bus yet serves it,
+// or the controller's own grant is refused, the secret-given condition is raised exactly as before ADR 0380
+// — any other failure (the holder itself refusing, or answering something unreadable) is the announcement's
+// own failure, said to the caller as it always was.
+func announceSecretGiven(ctx context.Context, node, module, name, how, askedBy string) error {
+	at := time.Now()
+	body := map[string]any{
+		"headline": fmt.Sprintf("A password was entered for %s's %s", module, secretNameWords(name)),
+		"lines": []string{
+			fmt.Sprintf("%s at %s, asked by %s.", how, at.Local().Format("15:04"), askedByName(askedBy)),
+			"If that was not you, give it again yourself at the controller's terminal.",
+		},
+	}
+	_, told := askOperatorChannel(ctx, body)
+	switch {
+	case told == nil:
+		clearSecretGivenConditions(ctx)
+		return nil
+	case errors.Is(told, link.ErrNothingServes), errors.Is(told, link.ErrGrantRefused):
+		log.Printf("secret-given: %s's %s on %s could not be told through the operator channel (%v); the "+
+			"secret-given condition is raised as it was before novox/hq ADR 0380 (its clause 9)", module, name,
+			node, told)
+		return withKeeper(ctx, func(k *conditions.Keeper) error {
+			_, err := k.Observe(ctx, secretGivenObservation(node, module, name, how, at))
+			return err
+		})
+	default:
+		return told
+	}
+}
+
+// clearSecretGivenConditions retires every open secret-given condition once a plain message has replaced
+// it (novox/hq ADR 0380 §10): called after the first time a secret-given message is told successfully. No
+// resolved line is sent — the condition is simply gone — and why is kept in the keeper's own history.
+func clearSecretGivenConditions(ctx context.Context) {
+	if err := withKeeper(ctx, func(k *conditions.Keeper) error {
+		open, err := k.Open(ctx)
+		if err != nil {
+			return err
+		}
+		for _, c := range open {
+			if c.Kind != kindSecretGiven {
+				continue
+			}
+			if _, err := k.ClearSaying(ctx, c.Key, "retired by novox/hq ADR 0380", ""); err != nil {
+				return err
+			}
+		}
+		return nil
+	}); err != nil {
+		log.Printf("secret-given: the open secret-given conditions, retired by ADR 0380, could not be cleared: %v", err)
+	}
 }
diff --git a/cmd/mesh-controller/desk_secret_test.go b/cmd/mesh-controller/desk_secret_test.go
index d2cc26a9..00e41f81 100644
--- a/cmd/mesh-controller/desk_secret_test.go
+++ b/cmd/mesh-controller/desk_secret_test.go
@@ -556,3 +556,125 @@ func TestASecretAskIsNeverASecretRead(t *testing.T) {
 		}
 	}
 }
+
+// askOperatorChannelFake replaces askOperatorChannel for the test and records every call it was given.
+func askOperatorChannelFake(t *testing.T, answer func(args map[string]any) (json.RawMessage, error)) *[]map[string]any {
+	t.Helper()
+	var calls []map[string]any
+	was := askOperatorChannel
+	askOperatorChannel = func(_ context.Context, args map[string]any) (json.RawMessage, error) {
+		calls = append(calls, args)
+		return answer(args)
+	}
+	t.Cleanup(func() { askOperatorChannel = was })
+	return &calls
+}
+
+// announceWithRealTell wires a deskGive's announce to the real announceSecretGiven, as askAtDesk does,
+// rather than the fakes the tests above use to look at what `give` does around it.
+func announceWithRealTell(ctx context.Context, askedBy string) func(node, module, name, how string) error {
+	return func(node, module, name, how string) error {
+		return announceSecretGiven(ctx, node, module, name, how, askedBy)
+	}
+}
+
+// novox/hq ADR 0380 clauses 1-2: a secret given at the desk is told to the operator once, in a plain
+// message through the operator channel's `tell`, naming the secret, the module, where and when and who
+// asked, and opens no condition — the kind the review of 2026-10-09 (M4) raised is retired.
+func TestASecretGivenAtTheDeskIsToldOnceAndOpensNoCondition(t *testing.T) {
+	ctx := context.Background()
+	k, _ := withConditionsInMemory(t)
+	calls := askOperatorChannelFake(t, func(map[string]any) (json.RawMessage, error) { return nil, nil })
+	d, _, _, _ := aDesk(t, sealedTo(t, typed))
+	d.announce = announceWithRealTell(ctx, "mail-seats-835@novox")
+	if _, err := d.give("anchor", "telegram", "telegram-token", "laptop"); err != nil {
+		t.Fatal(err)
+	}
+	if len(*calls) != 1 {
+		t.Fatalf("told the operator %d times, want exactly 1: %v", len(*calls), *calls)
+	}
+	call := (*calls)[0]
+	if call["headline"] != "A password was entered for telegram's telegram token" {
+		t.Errorf("headline %v", call["headline"])
+	}
+	lines, _ := call["lines"].([]string)
+	if len(lines) != 2 || !strings.Contains(lines[0], "at the desk on laptop at") ||
+		!strings.Contains(lines[0], "asked by mail-seats-835@novox") ||
+		lines[1] != "If that was not you, give it again yourself at the controller's terminal." {
+		t.Errorf("lines %v", lines)
+	}
+	open, err := k.Open(ctx)
+	if err != nil {
+		t.Fatal(err)
+	}
+	if len(open) != 0 {
+		t.Errorf("a condition was raised though the operator was told: %+v", open)
+	}
+}
+
+// novox/hq ADR 0380 §9: until the operator channel's `tell` is delivered — nothing yet serves it, or the
+// controller's own grant is refused — the secret-given condition is raised exactly as before.
+func TestASecretGivenAtTheDeskRaisesTheConditionWhileNothingServesTell(t *testing.T) {
+	ctx := context.Background()
+	for _, failure := range []error{link.ErrNothingServes, link.ErrGrantRefused} {
+		k, _ := withConditionsInMemory(t)
+		askOperatorChannelFake(t, func(map[string]any) (json.RawMessage, error) { return nil, failure })
+		d, _, _, _ := aDesk(t, sealedTo(t, typed))
+		d.announce = announceWithRealTell(ctx, "mesh-mail-835, novox")
+		if _, err := d.give("anchor", "telegram", "telegram-token", "laptop"); err != nil {
+			t.Fatal(err)
+		}
+		open, err := k.Open(ctx)
+		if err != nil {
+			t.Fatal(err)
+		}
+		if len(open) != 1 || open[0].Kind != kindSecretGiven {
+			t.Fatalf("%v: the condition was not raised as before: %+v", failure, open)
+		}
+	}
+}
+
+// novox/hq ADR 0380 §10: once the operator channel is told successfully, every secret-given condition
+// still open from before this change is retired, without a resolved line of its own.
+func TestASuccessfulTellRetiresEveryOpenSecretGivenCondition(t *testing.T) {
+	ctx := context.Background()
+	k, _ := withConditionsInMemory(t)
+	for _, module := range []string{"telegram", "mesh-mail"} {
+		if _, err := k.Observe(ctx, secretGivenObservation("anchor", module, "a-secret", "at the desk on laptop",
+			time.Now())); err != nil {
+			t.Fatal(err)
+		}
+	}
+	askOperatorChannelFake(t, func(map[string]any) (json.RawMessage, error) { return nil, nil })
+	if err := announceSecretGiven(ctx, "anchor", "telegram", "telegram-token", "at the desk on laptop", "me"); err != nil {
+		t.Fatal(err)
+	}
+	open, err := k.Open(ctx)
+	if err != nil {
+		t.Fatal(err)
+	}
+	if len(open) != 0 {
+		t.Fatalf("the open secret-given conditions were not retired: %+v", open)
+	}
+}
+
+// novox/hq ADR 0380 clause 7: a trusted party's secret given at the controller's terminal is announced
+// before it is kept, and not kept when the announcement fails. It still fails when telling the operator
+// AND raising the fallback condition both fail — nothing silently keeps a trusted party's value unheard.
+func TestATrustedPartysSecretAtTheTerminalIsNotKeptWhenTellAndTheConditionBothFail(t *testing.T) {
+	ctx := context.Background()
+	askOperatorChannelFake(t, func(map[string]any) (json.RawMessage, error) { return nil, link.ErrNothingServes })
+	// conditionsFrom is left nil and there is no bus to dial here, so the fallback condition cannot be
+	// raised either: both of ADR 0380's ways to tell the operator fail.
+	kept := false
+	if _, _, err := keepGiven(true,
+		func() error {
+			return announceSecretGiven(ctx, "anchor", "telegram", "telegram-token", "at the controller's terminal", "me")
+		},
+		func() (bool, error) { kept = true; return false, nil }); err == nil {
+		t.Error("a trusted party's secret was kept though telling the operator and raising the condition both failed")
+	}
+	if kept {
+		t.Error("the value was kept despite the failure")
+	}
+}
diff --git a/cmd/mesh-controller/secret.go b/cmd/mesh-controller/secret.go
index 373dbd7b..09e69c12 100644
--- a/cmd/mesh-controller/secret.go
+++ b/cmd/mesh-controller/secret.go
@@ -12,8 +12,11 @@ import (
 	"strings"
 	"time"
 
+	"github.com/nats-io/nats.go"
+
 	"github.com/novox/mesh-controller/internal/catalogue"
 	"github.com/novox/mesh-controller/internal/inventory"
+	"github.com/novox/mesh-controller/internal/link"
 	"github.com/novox/mesh-controller/internal/secrets"
 )
 
@@ -151,8 +154,11 @@ func secretCommand(ctx context.Context, args []string) error {
 	if err != nil {
 		return err
 	}
+	askedBy := link.Caller()
 	untilStart, unannounced, err := keepGiven(trusted,
-		func() error { return announceSecretGiven(ctx, node, module, name, "at the controller's terminal") },
+		func() error {
+			return announceSecretGiven(ctx, node, module, name, "at the controller's terminal", askedBy)
+		},
 		func() (bool, error) { return open.inventory.AcceptGivenSecret(ctx, node, module, name, value) })
 	if err != nil {
 		if trusted && unannounced != nil {
@@ -164,6 +170,17 @@ func secretCommand(ctx context.Context, args []string) error {
 	if unannounced != nil {
 		fmt.Printf("  this change could NOT be announced on the operator's channels: %v\n", unannounced)
 	}
+	// The giving is recorded, never the value (novox/hq ADR 0380 §6): the desk already logs its own act; the
+	// terminal's own secret accept did not until now.
+	act := link.HandAct{Verb: "secret accept", Args: []string{node, module, name},
+		Why:   fmt.Sprintf("the operator gave %s for %s on %s at the controller's terminal", name, module, node),
+		Cause: "given-at-the-terminal"}
+	if err := onTheBus(func(conn *nats.Conn) error {
+		_, err := link.RecordHandAct(ctx, conn, act)
+		return err
+	}); err != nil {
+		fmt.Printf("  this act could NOT be recorded in the hand-act log, and is done anyway: %v\n", err)
+	}
 	// Not printed back, and there is nowhere it could be printed from: it is sealed to that
 	// machine and the mesh cannot read it again.
 	fmt.Printf("%s on %s now holds %q, sealed to that machine.\n", module, node, name)
diff --git a/internal/broker/nats.go b/internal/broker/nats.go
index b1f0b831..79994946 100644
--- a/internal/broker/nats.go
+++ b/internal/broker/nats.go
@@ -279,6 +279,11 @@ var VerbsTheControllerAsksTheDeliveryOwner = []SeatVerb{{Seat: "mesh-delivery",
 var VerbsTheControllerActsOnAWarrant = []SeatVerb{{Seat: "node-service-manager", Verb: "restart"},
 	{Seat: ControllerSeat, Verb: "plans"}}
 
+// VerbsTheControllerAsksTheOperatorChannel are the operator channel's verbs the controller calls (novox/hq
+// ADR 0380): `tell`, one plain message with no condition behind it — a module's own secret given, named,
+// where and when and by whom, asking nothing. A mesh seat's verb is flat: no machine in the subject.
+var VerbsTheControllerAsksTheOperatorChannel = []SeatVerb{{Seat: "operator-channel", Verb: "tell"}}
+
 // perMachineEvents are a node-scoped seat's events about the holder itself, whose last token is the
 // holder's machine (novox/hq ADR 0219): `paused.<node>`, the build agent saying whether it takes work.
 var perMachineEvents = map[string]bool{"paused.*": true}
@@ -500,6 +505,10 @@ func PermissionsFor(p Principal) (Permissions, error) {
 		for _, v := range VerbsTheControllerAsksForASecret {
 			pub = append(pub, "mesh.seat."+v.Seat+".tool."+v.Verb+".*")
 		}
+		// And the operator channel, a mesh seat, asked flat: one message when a secret is given (ADR 0380).
+		for _, v := range VerbsTheControllerAsksTheOperatorChannel {
+			pub = append(pub, "mesh.seat."+v.Seat+".tool."+v.Verb)
+		}
 		// And the delivery's owner, a mesh seat, asked on its flat subjects (ADR 0239).
 		for _, v := range VerbsTheControllerAsksTheDeliveryOwner {
 			pub = append(pub, "mesh.seat."+v.Seat+".tool."+v.Verb)
diff --git a/internal/broker/testdata/composed.conf b/internal/broker/testdata/composed.conf
index 8270aaf3..971c1491 100644
--- a/internal/broker/testdata/composed.conf
+++ b/internal/broker/testdata/composed.conf
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ accounts {
     jetstream: enabled
     users = [
       { user: "controller", password: "$2a$11$cccccccccccccccccccccc", permissions: {
-        publish: { allow: ["$JS.ACK.CONTROL.controller.>", "$JS.ACK.DEAD_LETTER_NOTICES.controller.>", "$JS.ACK.EVENTS.controller.>", "$JS.API.>", "$KV.SEAT_MESH_BUILD_MACHINE_cancelled.>", "$KV.SEAT_NODE_BUILD_AGENT_cancelled.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_asked.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_calls.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_condition-history.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_conditions.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_hand-acts.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_lease.>", "$SRV.INFO", "_INBOX.enrol.>", "mesh.again.>", "mesh.assignment.>", "mesh.events.dead.>", "mesh.mod.*.tool.>", "mesh.node.>", "mesh.seat.mesh-build-machine.accept.>", "mesh.seat.mesh-build-machine.tool.>", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.applied", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.built-before", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.checked", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.condition-changed", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.condition-cleared", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.condition-raised", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.doctor-heartbeat", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.healer-acted", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.plan-moved", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.refused", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.rolled-back", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.secret-replaced", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.tool.plans", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.close", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.groups", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.release", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.stalled", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.stop", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.times", "mesh.seat.node-backup.tool.backed-up.*", "mesh.seat.node-backup.tool.now.*", "mesh.seat.node-build-agent.accept.>", "mesh.seat.node-build-agent.tool.>", "mesh.seat.node-intrusion-prevention.tool.banned.*", "mesh.seat.node-launcher.tool.secret.*", "mesh.seat.node-service-manager.tool.restart.*"] }
+        publish: { allow: ["$JS.ACK.CONTROL.controller.>", "$JS.ACK.DEAD_LETTER_NOTICES.controller.>", "$JS.ACK.EVENTS.controller.>", "$JS.API.>", "$KV.SEAT_MESH_BUILD_MACHINE_cancelled.>", "$KV.SEAT_NODE_BUILD_AGENT_cancelled.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_asked.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_calls.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_condition-history.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_conditions.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_hand-acts.>", "$KV.mesh-controller_lease.>", "$SRV.INFO", "_INBOX.enrol.>", "mesh.again.>", "mesh.assignment.>", "mesh.events.dead.>", "mesh.mod.*.tool.>", "mesh.node.>", "mesh.seat.mesh-build-machine.accept.>", "mesh.seat.mesh-build-machine.tool.>", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.applied", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.built-before", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.checked", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.condition-changed", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.condition-cleared", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.condition-raised", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.doctor-heartbeat", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.healer-acted", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.plan-moved", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.refused", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.rolled-back", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.event.secret-replaced", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.tool.plans", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.close", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.groups", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.release", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.stalled", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.stop", "mesh.seat.mesh-delivery.tool.times", "mesh.seat.node-backup.tool.backed-up.*", "mesh.seat.node-backup.tool.now.*", "mesh.seat.node-build-agent.accept.>", "mesh.seat.node-build-agent.tool.>", "mesh.seat.node-intrusion-prevention.tool.banned.*", "mesh.seat.node-launcher.tool.secret.*", "mesh.seat.node-service-manager.tool.restart.*", "mesh.seat.operator-channel.tool.tell"] }
         subscribe: { allow: ["$JS.API.>", "$JS.EVENT.ADVISORY.CONSUMER.DELETED.>", "$JS.EVENT.ADVISORY.CONSUMER.MAX_DELIVERIES.>", "$SRV.INFO", "$SRV.INFO.mesh-controller", "$SRV.INFO.mesh-controller.>", "$SRV.PING", "$SRV.PING.mesh-controller", "$SRV.PING.mesh-controller.>", "$SRV.STATS", "$SRV.STATS.mesh-controller", "$SRV.STATS.mesh-controller.>", "_DELIVER.controller", "_DELIVER.controller.>", "_INBOX.controller.>", "mesh.control.>", "mesh.mod.*.event.provisioner.failing", "mesh.mod.*.event.provisioner.recovered", "mesh.mod.*.event.provisioner.retirement", "mesh.mod.gitea.event.pull.merged", "mesh.mod.gitea.event.pull.updated", "mesh.mod.mesh-catalog.event.catching-up", "mesh.mod.mesh-catalog.event.upgraded", "mesh.seat.mesh-build-machine.event.built", "mesh.seat.mesh-controller.tool.>", "mesh.seat.node-build-agent.event.built", "mesh.seat.operator-channel.event.decided.mesh-controller"] }
         allow_responses: { max: 1, ttl: "1m" }
       } }
diff --git a/internal/link/queue.go b/internal/link/queue.go
index 6b6f5fb1..b30d570b 100644
--- a/internal/link/queue.go
+++ b/internal/link/queue.go
@@ -641,8 +641,8 @@ func AskMeshSeatTool(ctx context.Context, conn *nats.Conn, seat, verb string, ar
 		reply, err = r.msg, r.err
 	case why := <-refused:
 		cancel()
-		return Answer{}, fmt.Errorf("the bus refused the controller asking %s.%s — its grants do not name %s: %v",
-			seat, verb, subject, why)
+		return Answer{}, fmt.Errorf("%w: the bus refused the controller asking %s.%s — its grants do not name %s: %v",
+			ErrGrantRefused, seat, verb, subject, why)
 	}
 	switch {
 	case errors.Is(err, nats.ErrNoResponders):
diff --git a/internal/link/retirement.go b/internal/link/retirement.go
index c0bd8330..201b4836 100644
--- a/internal/link/retirement.go
+++ b/internal/link/retirement.go
@@ -167,6 +167,11 @@ const (
 // is older than the tool.
 var ErrNothingServes = errors.New("nothing serves it")
 
+// ErrGrantRefused is the bus refusing this principal's own call: its grants do not name the subject
+// asked. Distinct from ErrNothingServes (nobody there to answer) — this is the asker's own grant, not
+// the holder's absence (novox/hq ADR 0380 §9).
+var ErrGrantRefused = errors.New("the bus refused the ask")
+
 // ModuleToolOn is where one machine's instance of a module answers a tool: the module's tool subject
 // with the machine as its last token — the subject the node tools bind beside the shared one.
 func ModuleToolOn(module, tool, node string) string { return ToolSubject(module, tool) + "." + node }