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jschoubben dcdfcf104e Issues 140 and 141: an endpoint's reach is declared nowhere, and the forward chain follows constants instead of the modules
Found preparing the control-node's convergence. Reach is settled independently by
the filter, the proxy's names and the certificate authority, so "this must not be
public" cannot be written and a public certificate is obtained regardless. And the
forward chain allows two hardcoded ranges plus a typed list, though the mesh
already knows which networks exist because its own modules declared them — a range
wide enough to keep four of them would have forwarded two predecessor leftovers too.
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# 141 — The forward chain does not follow the modules, though the modules declare their networks
## What was observed
[ADR 0137](../../02-DECISIONS/0137-a-machine-says-which-networks-it-routes.md), decided the same
week, gave a machine a way to say which networks it routes for its guests, because the derived
filter's forward chain had until then allowed two ranges named as constants in the control plane's
own source — the container runtime's default bridge pool, and half of the pool its compose files
are given.
Checking the last machine still to be converged, the same fault was found to be live there, and the
declaration needed to work around it turned out to be wrong in kind.
That machine hosts twenty-one container networks. Nine fall inside the runtime's bridge pool and
are forwarded. Twelve sit in the other private range, and **six of those fall below the lower bound
of the constant**, so the flip would have cut their guests off exactly as it did on the workstation
that produced 0137.
Naming a range to cover the six was the obvious move, and is what 0137 provides for. But of those
six networks, **four are networks the mesh's own modules declare** — they appear as network
resources in the node's plan, created by the host because a module asked for them — and **two are
leftovers of the predecessor**, compose networks of services the mesh does not run. A range wide
enough to keep the four would have forwarded the two as well: a firewall widened by hand to protect
networks that should not exist.
The mesh already knows which of the twenty-one are its own. It made them.
## Why it matters beyond this instance
**The node's configuration is supposed to follow the modules assigned to it.** That is the mesh's
founding shape — the machine runs modules, and its files, its filter and its accounts are composed
from what runs there. The forward chain is the one derived thing that does not: it consults two
constants and, since 0137, a list a person types. A module added tomorrow brings a network the filter
will not forward; a module deprecated leaves a range in the list that outlives it.
**A typed range cannot distinguish the mesh's networks from what was left behind.** It is stated in
addresses, and addresses are what the runtime allocates, so the only honest declaration is one wide
enough to include whatever else the runtime has handed out. The derivation is narrower than anything
a person can safely write, because it names networks rather than ranges.
**0137 rejected deriving this, and was right about what it rejected.** It considered deriving the
list from *what the machine reports* and refused, on two grounds: a test bed creates its bridge
between one declaration and the next, and a filter that follows whatever appeared on the machine is a
firewall that widens itself. Deriving from the **declaration** is neither. The set is known before
the network exists, because a module declared it; and it cannot widen itself, because only a network
some module asked for is ever forwarded. What remains genuinely for a machine to say is guests no
module declares — a test bed's pool — which is a much smaller residue than the list as it stands.
**The gap is invisible in the one place that should show it.** The converge preview lists what
*listens*, and routing is not a listener. It says in one line what the machine routes, and a reader
has to know the runtime's allocations to tell whether that line is sufficient. On the machine
measured here it read as though nothing needed saying.
## Open questions
- Should the forward chain be derived from the network resources the node's modules declare, with the
host resolving each declared network to its address the way it already resolves a container by name?
The controller cannot render the address itself: a module's network resource carries a name, and the
runtime allocates the subnet at creation.
- What remains of `node networks` once that exists — only guests no module declares, such as a test
bed's pool? And should it then be named for that, rather than for all routing?
- The runtime's own default bridge, which containers attach to when no module network is named, is
not a module's network. Is it derived from the machine, declared by the module that owns the
runtime, or left as the one constant?
- Should the preview say which of a machine's networks are the mesh's and which are not, so a range
that exists to protect a leftover is visible as such?