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jschoubben 72eaf52867 Issue 152: a node whose plan will not compose withdraws its names from every machine
ace numbered its two records 147 and 148, which this repository already
uses; they become 150 and 151, as 127 became 149.

The new record is why the control node could not stop applying: the
roster alternates between two values because routeNamesInTheMesh
swallows a per-node plan failure, and the roster is part of every
container's identity. The loop closes through the control plane's own
store, which each pass replaces.
2026-09-29 23:13:54 +02:00

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status: open
opened: 2026-09-29
located-in:
- mesh-host internal/apply/apply.go (containerSpecReading hashes every `host` entry)
- mesh-controller internal/catalogue/declaration.go (withMeshNames gives every container the mesh's names)
fixed-by:
---
# 151 — A new name recreates every container in the mesh
## What was observed
Migrating one small module on ace (searxng) took four routine controller actions: `node public-domain
ace zurag.be`, `assign ace searxng` + push, `unassign ace searxng` + push (a rollback, see
[issue 150](../150-a-route-is-contributed-before-its-module-is-taken/00-report.md)), and assign + take
+ push again. Each push to ace also pushed novox ("this push left g14, novox, shanks behind … sending it
too"). novox's host then **replaced every container it runs, twice**:
```
22:46 … updated postgres.server (mesh-store): replaced; a container's configuration is fixed when it is created
22:46 … updated distribution.store (mesh-registry): replaced; …
22:46 … updated route-proxy.server (route-proxy): recreated …
22:51 … updated postgres.server (mesh-store): replaced; …
22:52 … updated gitea.server (gitea): replaced; …
22:52–22:55 mesh-vault, builder, all of mailu, keycloak, minio, mongodb, invoicing, photos, umami, …
```
Replacements per minute on novox, 22:46–22:55: 12, 8, 13, 5, 6, 8, 8, 8, 8, 4. The control plane was
unreachable twice while its own store came back through crash recovery
(`FATAL: the database system is starting up`), and dependants (umami) crash-looped until it did. None
of the replaced containers belonged to the module being migrated, or to ace.
## Why (confirmed part)
Every container the mesh runs is given the mesh's names as `--add-host` entries
(`withMeshNames`), and the host puts every entry into the container's spec digest — deliberately,
since [issue 135](../135-a-containers-mesh-names-are-not-compared/00-report.md): a container left alone when the roster moved kept a five-day-old
address and restarted 2286 times. A running container cannot have its hosts changed, so a changed
digest means a replace.
The consequence is that **the roster is part of every container everywhere**: anything that adds,
removes or moves one name — a node's public domain, a routed name, an unassign — replaces every
container on every machine that carries the list. On the hub that includes the control plane's store,
the registry, the edge and mail.
## Not yet established
Which name moved in each pass. gitea's hosts after the fact list the `.internal` names and novox's
internally routed `*.novox.be` names, and **not** `searxng.zurag.be` — so it is not simply "a routed
name was added". Two passes suggest the set changed at assign and changed back at unassign; the
declarations before and after would say, and nothing on the machine records the previous one.
## Why it matters now
The node-by-node migration adds names one module at a time. On ace alone that is ~25 web modules; if
each assignment moves the roster, each is a full restart of every hub service, and a rollback is
another. The migration is paused on this.
## What would be right (for diagnosis)
Keep 135's guarantee (no container runs with a stale address) without making the roster part of every
container's identity — e.g. resolve mesh names through a resolver the container asks at lookup time
rather than baked entries, or scope each container's entries to the names it actually binds.